Shockingly Short Interview: Lucien Soulban

True story: I first met Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon scribe Lucien Soulban in a howling snowstorm while trying desperately to chase down a box of RPG supplements that had mysteriously been diverted to Pittsburgh, along with my pants.

Despite that, he’s still speaking to me, while at the same time laying down an impressive track record in RPGs (Orpheus, Vampire: The Masquerade), fiction (Desert Raiders, The Alien Sea) and of course, videogames (Rainbow Six: Vegas). It is my pleasure, then, to take my ridiculously talented old friend and put him on the hot seat. Here now are his takes on writing for media licenses, the missing member of the ’80s action movie pantheon, and the most impressive burger metaphor ever used on this blog.

Without further ado, Lucien Soulban.Shockingly Short Interview: Lucien Soulban

Who the heck are you?

Lucien Soulban is who the heck I am – a Lead Writer at Ubisoft Montreal. My alter egos include a tabletop game writer and a fiction writer. By my narratives powers combined, I am First Lieutenant Planet, though I’m told my papers are coming in for a promotion to Captain.

You come from a background in tabletop RPGs. What’s the difference between writing those and writing for videogames?

If I were using a thick paintbrush to draw the comparisons? The stakes involved in both influence the process. Videogames start as a passion for an individual, but companies spend a lot of money to make money. So creativity is scrutinized with the same lens used to divine programming and level design, making it creatively challenging for writers and artists, but the payoff is financial stability, a wider audience and being on the forefront of interactive storytelling, which is exciting.

Tabletop games start as a passion that must grow more intense to keep you in the game (so to speak). Companies don’t have the same bankroll, so the tradeoff to less financial security is that companies give us writers more leeway to explore and embrace ideas. We also don’t have to worry about curtailing themes or subject matter because of potential translation issues.

With a finer brushstroke, tabletop RPGs are creatively liberating because we’re encouraged to trigger the player’s imagination and are then rewarded for it. The worlds we write about are limitless and we do more to encourage thinking outside the box. The AI we face is that of another player’s imagination. Videogames are limited by technology, and that can create some hard borders. Where videogames shine, however, is in more than just graphics- and gameplay-related areas. They shine in telling a story while tabletop games shine in providing the playground of a mythology.

A lot of your early videogame work was in writing for games based off other media licenses. What’s the difference between working on a license like, say, High School Musical, and then moving to a license that originated in games, like Far Cry?

You really had to go for High School Musical. [Author’s note: Yes. Yes, I did.] You couldn’t have asked me about Kim Possible or Enchanted or any of those. Okay, all right… media license games were a fantastic starting point for getting credits under the belt, and they were liberating. The voices and the plot were already there. I just needed to watch the shows and be true to the experience. Essentially, I was smoothing out the transition between existing chapter titles. But they were also deceptive. I was brought in late in the design process and I had to write to spec. I knew enough to ask for the Game Design Document so I could figure out how to smooth the gameplay objectives into the text, but it was mostly dialogues.

Shockingly Short Interview: Lucien Soulban

Fast forward to AAA titles like Rainbow Six: Vegas and Far Cry 3, and I’m in the trenches. Just writing dialogue is no longer enough; you need to contribute to the team. You need to take intentions from every corner and make them cohesive, and you need to make your voice heard without being obnoxious about it. I love it. It’s a big old mess of production, like a fat burger dripping with juice and ketchup and mayo, and every bite is a gourmand’s money shot. (Can I say that?) Working on media tie-ins, I was alone. Working on AAA games, I’m on a team making contributions in ways I never would have guessed. And those contributions echo across the industry. It’s a heady feeling that I’m being heard in an industry grossing more than Hollywood.

The standard videogame protagonist is a mid-30s stubbly-bearded brown-haired white guy with a raspy voice. As an openly gay man working in the industry, what do you think the odds are that we’ll get a mid-30s stubbly-bearded brown-haired white guy with a raspy voice who is gay as a lead character in a AAA title?

Oh boy. I think the real question is, When are going to get a gay/lesbian AAA hero(ine) who isn’t a one-off joke? You look at Javier Bardem in Skyfall, his character’s sexuality was total shtick to satisfy one scene. Otherwise, he was a narcissist with mommy issues, and a pedophile to boot. His “seduction” of Bond was nothing more than vanity because Bond was his reflection, the new “him.” Yay. So it bothers me when I hear people using his performance as a benchmark for diversity in entertainment, and I have heard it being bandied about.

Shockingly Short Interview: Lucien Soulban

So when are we going to see that gay protagonist in a AAA game? Not for a while, I suspect, because of fears that it’ll impact sales. So either we’ll see a bait-and-switch like the original Metroid with Samus Aran where we’ll find out damn near after the fact (PS: And Dumbledore was gay), or it’ll come out of left field with Rockstar, Valve, Naughty Dog or Telltale, perhaps. But when it happens, I hope it’s a serious take on it and not played up for jokes.

Are we at a place where we’ll start seeing more gay and lesbian characters in games? If not, what’s it going to take to get us there?

We’ll definitely see more of them, and I think it’s happening quietly. Look at the choices offered in Mass Effect II & III, or Fable III, or Dragon Age II or Skyrim, the gay characters in Borderlands 2 who mention it without much fanfare, etc. Videogames have stopped “announcing” gay characters. They’re introducing them without much fanfare in an effort to say, Yeah, it’s there and pretty normal. Call it: We’re here, we’re queer, and we’re busy working.

Last question: Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon – on a scale of Jack Burton to Snake Plissken, how awesome is it?

It’s like you threw an Eighties-themed party and everyone showed up dressed like Arnold, Sly, Kurt, Biehn and JCVD [Jean-Claude Van Damme], or with costumes from Robocop to Aliens to Terminator to Predator to Cobra. In fact, at the 2012 Halloween, the team costume photos included characters from our game, Mad Max types, me in a Skeletor costume and the Creative Director Dean Evans dressed as Hobocop (Robocop + noteworthy honorary addition to the ’80s ranks: Hobo with a Shotgun). It was all your Saturday morning cartoons rolled into one, and it would have been a perfect cartoon series… if you pulled out the swearing and the ripping out of cyborg hearts. I’ve never had that much fun making a game in a team setting. I got to relive the best parts of my childhood and justify every VCR tape and action figure I ever bought.

Shockingly Short Interview: Lucien Soulban

Many thanks to Lucien for sharing his thoughts with us. You can follow him on twitter at @luciensoulban.

Read up on Richard Dansky’s videogame writing tips in his other Write Stuff columns:

Talk the Talk

On Becoming a Game Writer

The Things They Don’t Teach You In Game Writer School

On Becoming a Game Writer

Tips for Writers

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Perhaps best known for his brief stint as the world’s leading authority on Denebian Slime Devils, Richard Dansky has been with Red Storm/Ubisoft since 1999. His first game was Shadow Watch and his most recent one is Splinter Cell Blacklist. In between he’s served on the advisory board for GDC’s Game Narrative Summit, helped found and develop the IGDA Game Writing SIG, and appeared on Gamasutra’s list of the top 20 game writers in 2009. He has also published six novels, one short fiction collection and a ton of tabletop RPG sourcebooks, which is why you should never tell him about your character. For a tantalizing taste of Dansky's inimitable insights, read his recurring column on the UbiBlog ("The Write Stuff") and follow him on Twitter: @RDansky

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  1. Brighton Michael on February 28, 2014
    2,500 years ago, Alexander the Great wiped the world. The 'joke' is that schoolboy gamesters giggle at anything to do with sex.
    • David Dutton on February 28, 2014
      Totally wrong answer from ubisoft and a cop outMajor games with options for open gay characters: Mass effect 1-3 (1-2 were lesbian only) Dragon age series, including the new one coming out The Sims ... And other gamesAs long as u give players the OPTION, you won't hurt sales. If you give them no choice, then you could hurt sales. And in some games, it's irrelevant as there's no romance / sex.
  2. Gary Steinman | Communications Manager on March 2, 2014
    Hello, all... We’ve seen several news outlets pick up quotes from this lively interview, with a focus on Lucien’s comment that we might not see a gay protagonist in a triple-A game for a while due to concerns about an impact on sales. We want to clarify that Lucien is speaking from the heart and sharing his own personal perspectives and insights. We’d also like to reiterate that Ubisoft is fully committed to exploring characters of all races, creeds and orientations, in both supporting and starring roles. The UbiBlog was built to be a place where the creative minds behind our games can talk directly with you, in an open setting, fostering frank and candid discussions about key issues like this one.
    • Dache on March 3, 2014
      While I understand you're "just" a communications manager and don't have an all-powerful input: start putting your money where your mouth is and do something about it.
  3. Tyrone JaVal on March 2, 2014
    'chea..
  4. kaiju of the grotto on March 2, 2014
    The was fear effect 1&2 for the psx.....
  5. Ben on March 3, 2014
    Better question is who cares?
    • John on May 10, 2014
      Grow up.
  6. Raphael on March 3, 2014
    How about Rayman? Let him rescue a Prince for once!
  7. Raphael on March 3, 2014
    Also, can anyone from Ubisoft comment on some purported oblique references to Aveline de Grandpre's non-heterosexuality? (http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/02/how-video-games-are-slowly-quietly-introducing-lgbt-heroes/284017/)
  8. Lumpy Space Princess on July 1, 2014
    Bioware is continuing to lead the industry in this regard while Ubisoft waits it out. "Because monies!" http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/01/dragon-age-inquisition-to-feature-biowares-first-fully-gay-male

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